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Cancer Nutrition & Recovery: The Truth About Protein, Sugar, and Exercise During Treatment

• Gregg & Heather Krause • Season 1 • Episode 16

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In this powerful episode of the Alpha Male Podcast, Heather Krause and Father Gregg Krause share their personal journey navigating cancer treatment while uncovering the critical role of cancer nutrition in recovery. Gregg’s rapid weight loss during treatment led him to discover the benefits of a protein-rich diet, low-carb nutrition, and consistent exercise during cancer treatment—even when hospital guidelines suggested otherwise.

They discuss:

  • The sugar and cancer link you need to know
  • Why a low carb cancer diet or carnivore diet can support healing
  • The hidden dangers of hospital nutrition protocols
  • How self-advocacy can transform your recovery journey

If you want real, experience-backed insights on holistic cancer recovery, this is an episode you can’t afford to miss.

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SPEAKER_02:

Hi guys, and welcome to another episode of the Alpha Male Podcast. I'm one of your hosts, Heather Krause.

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awards and father greg kraus thanks for joining us today today's

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topic so last week we talked about cancer and um not a very fun subject but something that's very relevant um and We actually got a ton of questions on, you know, because we didn't really touch on diet last week. It was more like, you know, asking questions and what to look for in a doctor. But we got a bunch of questions for how do you eat if you are diagnosed or, you know, a loved one's diagnosed, which diet does play such a huge role when something like that happens. I mean, you know, food is medicine, so...

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Yeah, and I will say from going through it myself, it is a scary thing because the doctors make it sound like they're God, and you've got to follow exactly what they say. And I think some of the doctors have very, very good intentions, and other doctors, it's a job, and they just follow. Whatever they were taught. And not that it's the latest and greatest, but that's what they know.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, and it's also, like, not just to follow them, but to follow them now. So, like, there's definitely a, like, they put a lot of urgency on their recommendations, for sure. Like, increasing your fear.

SPEAKER_01:

Right. They don't give you a chance to stop and really go out and talk to them. maybe another medical place or someone else who has experienced cancer because I know there's many different types out there. But it sure seems like a lot of things would help whatever type of cancer you have.

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And, you know, with diet recommendations, this goes even if you do, you know, decide to do chemo, radiation, whatever treatment you're, you know, Yes, just to interrupt you. In

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my situation, I lost 50 to 60 pounds of body weight when I was going through it.

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Yeah, and it was like a month and a half, I think it was. So it was crazy. It was definitely a... Very fast, rapid weight loss. But you put it back on just as fast. And that's what we want to kind of hone in today is how do you stay healthy and keep that weight and keep good, healthy weight on that's going to help you get through whatever treatment that you decide to do.

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I know I got an argument with the nutritionist at the hospital because they have some funky guidelines. Because I was down 153 or 156 pounds, whatever it was, that's how they fed me. And I'm like, I'm usually 210 to 220. So you're not feeding me correctly. And luckily my doctor, NMT Anderson, great guy, He said, Greg, I'm going to write a prescription so you can do what you need to do. And I gained like 30 pounds back in like two and a half, three weeks. And once again, it was weight that I had had before.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, it's crazy that you needed a prescription by a doctor to eat the way you thought that you should eat. Like, that's wild to me.

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Well, because the nutritionist controlled everything at the hospital. I

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know, but I'm saying, like, you should be able to control that. Like, what if the doctor said no? You know, like, I just think that that whole thing's why. I mean, we would have done it

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anyway.

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Yeah, I mean, we're just happy we got to do it the easy way. But it is, but so many people that would, you know, that would stop them. I feel like they'd be afraid to ask or push forward. And

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one thing the doctors said, they were amazed at how quickly I recovered and everything else that normally doesn't happen. Well, I think a lot of it goes back to we were aggressive by how we wanted to come back and be normal again.

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Yes, and I definitely think that that played a huge part in it. Like, it was just, you know, we're going to come back. We're not going to kind of, you know, I don't know, wallow in our losses, and we're just going to hurry up and get all this weight back on and just kind of get back to normal, whereas I think, again, a lot of people kind of take a step back. They feel a little defeated, and I think the quicker that they can put it back on, you know, all that muscle memory that they have, it's going to come on quicker the quicker you kind of try to put it back on.

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And once again, I exercised while I was doing this. I just didn't sit around with a feeding tube in. In the beginning, I walked. And they will tell you, MD Anderson, I set the record 86 or 88 laps, whatever it was, two days after my surgery. Now, once again, I'm not telling you to do that. I'm telling you to get up and get moving and join the human race again. Because when I went around on that floor and I looked in every room, those people were just laying there. And I kept nodding to them to come out and walk with me, and some of them did, and they felt a lot better.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, movement is super important. I mean, you worked out through, even when you were doing chemo, and stuff and radiation, you were lifted.

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After radiation, I would drink a protein drink, go to the gym and train for an hour.

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Mm-hmm. And don't forget, guys, too, like nutrition, like with lifting. Just like in the gym when you're breaking down your muscles and your cells and you eat to repair that, that's how it is with radiation. Your cells are getting blasted. You need to make sure you're eating to repair your body and to nourish it.

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And now what rebuilds your body? What nutrients?

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Protein, hands down.

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Which is made up of amino acids.

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Yes.

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Which is what your body uses to rebuild itself. I love broccoli, but broccoli don't build muscle.

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No. And so what, like, Dad, I'll ask you even though I know what you're going to say. What diet would you, like, if you're talking about, too, like with nutrients and macros, what kind of diet would you recommend, like generally speaking, if somebody was diagnosed with cancer, like no matter what kind of cancer, what would you tell them to do?

SPEAKER_01:

I guess the first thing I would tell them to do is to write down what they're eating and send it to me. And then, or you, because since you do this with me, and we would look at it, and I know right off the get-go, the donuts, the cookies, the candy, and I know you don't feel good, you feel sorry for yourself, and that's a comfort food. Well... That comfort food ain't helping you.

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No.

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Remember, sugar feeds cancer.

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Across the board. That's how it is.

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And that's why we would knock down all those simple carbohydrates with sugar being number one. And I would eat more of it. I know people don't like to hear this, the carnivore diet.

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Mm-hmm.

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But I'll tell you what, it'll help keep your body going. It'll keep you strong to fight all this. And it's important that your body repairs itself because of everything you're going through. And that was one thing I know the doc was amazed with myself, how quick I bounce back and everything else. I mentioned this once before, he was using me as an example. He had to go to Sweden or...

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I think it was Amsterdam.

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Amsterdam, I'm sorry. My brain cells aren't back yet. But he was one of the guest speakers that they picked six from around the world. And I was the subject that we did a video for him to play over there and what I did and what I look like and everything. And not that I'm Superman, but... I didn't sit back and listen to just what they told me. I asked, why? Why do you want me to do that? Why do you want me to eat that? Why can't I eat this? Why can't I do that? And I think that's so important that you empower yourself and do some reading and don't just listen to the one doctor.

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No.

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Go out. We went to many places.

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Well... Also with that about don't just listen to the doctor, like how we said sugar feeds cancer, well, they will have a plate of cookies waiting for you after you're done with radiation, like as a reward. Or like you had some of– one of your side effects from radiation was a dry throat, and they told him the remedy is to suck on lemon heads. Well, lemon heads have sugar in them. And we even like– we were like, wait, what? We're like– You want sugar-free ones, even though those have chemicals in them. But we were just curious where this person's head was at. And they're like, no, no, no, no, regular ones. We're like, the ones with sugar? And you had throat cancer, which means the sugar is going right over where you have cancer. Is this person out of their mind?

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And

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sugar damages your cells anyway, like cancer or not. It damages cells. And so if you're, especially if you're going through a chemo or radiation where your cells are getting damaged and cells that shouldn't be damaged are getting damaged, the last thing you want to do is put sugar, something damaging, into your body. So it doesn't make any sense.

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And I know a lot of you are addicted to having something sweet. One thing I know Heather and I do with our clients, if it's somebody just wanting to get back in shape, if they have sugar with every meal, we have them do sugar at every other meal. Run that for a week. Then we do it for like once a day. They can have one meal. And then we eventually moved them once every other day, every three days, et cetera, until you are in control again. What you got to realize is sugar is like a drug, like heroin.

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It is. It's one of the most addictive substances on the planet. And so obviously we want... No sugar. But when you're working with an addict, you've got to sometimes wean them off because they can't. They have really bad withdrawals. They feel even more like crap after what they're going through. So you kind of have to work with them on this. And so it's not terrible, like you said, to just slowly wean them off, but to do it as fast as possible because it really makes a difference.

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And you'll notice you'll start feeling

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better

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once you get away from that. Now, we're not telling you never have sugar again. I'm going to give you my own situation. Once a week, and it's usually Sunday, my last meal of the day or second last meal of the day, I'll have something that's sweet, whether it's ice cream or whatever. But By the time I have that, it's the end of the day. So I'm not getting all these mad cravings because I'm getting ready to go to bed shortly. But if you start eating it early in the day,

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then

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those cravings sometimes come up and bite you in the rear end. So set yourself up for success. And if you need more help with that, feel free

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to contact us. And, too, if you are one of those that are addicted to sugar and you find yourself in this situation, you got diagnosed with cancer and you've got to stop and you've got to wean yourself off, one thing I would recommend is start those meals that you are eating sugar, whether it's ice cream or candy, whatever, try to get away from high fructose corn syrup and try to find something with like ideally like organic sugar or like there's coconut sugar. There's all different kinds that are, you know, less processed. Still, you know, Best scenario is no sugar, but at least you're getting better options and you're starting to get away from those chemicals and anything that causes an insane amount of inflammation. So I would start to do that. Let's just say you can't give up your ice cream. Well, I would start looking for an ice cream that's more natural. Or even... bake it something yourself that's actually like the best thing is bake your your own cake and not from like a duncan hines box i'm talking from like scratch so you know what ingredients you're putting in because that's going to be a lot better than picking up some you know betty crocker cake that is like there's so many chemicals in it it's insane

SPEAKER_01:

and yours would probably taste better than the store-bought one

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thousand percent and just a side note i i saw something on Instagram. Again, I'm going to warn people, take it with a grain of salt because it was on Instagram. But I heard that Texas passed a law that they gave companies one year to get certain food dyes out and certain ingredients out, or else they're making them put a warning label on their food saying not fit for human consumption. So Like they're starting to put pressure on things. And one of those things, one of the items that they was using as an example was like Betty Cracker's like strawberry cake. And because if you ever look at the ingredients and that stuff, it's terrible. Like food colorings and it says natural flavors and that is. That is so misleading. Natural flavors, a company can put anything underneath there and claim it under natural flavors. So also keep that in mind. If you see natural flavors, I would put it down.

SPEAKER_01:

Now, I'm going to just jump back to the carnivore diet because right away I could tell when I said that. Some of you going, oh, my God, Greg, my cholesterol. My fat, I'm going to begin. Remember. your body burns fat for energy, except when there's a ton of carbohydrates in the way. If you have a ton of carbohydrates in you, your body burns the carbs first, and the good old body fat gets stored, where if you didn't take in all that processed carbohydrate, your body would be thrilled to go for the fat and burn that as energy. And you'd be amazed. You'd start getting leaner. And it would get you back in shape where you could fight this cancer and beat it.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, there's a lot of studies that showed that switching over to a low-carb diet or carnivore diet, basically, showed a lot of anti-cancer benefits and not only that it also has helped like numerous autoimmune diseases like gut issues all kinds of things you know people improve tremendously on and i do just want to point out when we say like carnivore or low carb i would stay away from all these like low carb bars or sauces or you know that you're basically just putting

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put the net carbs

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yeah they put net carbs on there and they it's basically like a chemical bomb is what it is because they're trying to make it taste good without you know any sweetness or anything like they're putting artificial sugar in it food coloring all of that so definitely check the labels on those things I have yet to come across one that doesn't isn't filled with chemicals so I'd love to hear if you know one does exist out there but I don't think so um But two, going off that, like salad dressings. There's like low-carb salad dressings, but really, again, they have canola oil in them, they have chemicals, they have food coloring in them, a bunch of other stuff where you can easily make...

SPEAKER_01:

And I'm gonna back you up. What kind of oils should you be eating?

SPEAKER_02:

You should be eating avocado oils... Avocado, olive oil, macadamia nut oil. I'm trying to think of what's in my cabinet right now. Coconut oil is another one. Stay away from canola or any vegetable oil because it is so processed. It's basically useless and nothing but inflammatory. And again, they use...

SPEAKER_01:

Could you explain what inflammatory means?

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Oh, so inflammatory basically means, like, it is a swelling that it, like, so if I punched him in his arm, in my dad's arm, his arm's going to be inflamed because I'm a good puncher, and I'll leave a mark. But basically, so, like, it'll cause inflammation of, like, your gut lining big time. So your gut is, it's not a, just like a long... This is gross. But, like, it's not just a long tube. It's actually, like, sections of tubes, like, close together. And so when you eat something that inflames it, basically they, like, swell up. So now you have little openings in between, which can lead to, like, leaky gut, things like that. And that, like... So your body is made to attack anything that is not where it's supposed to be. So... Your food is supposed to be in your intestinal tube and not outside of it. Well, with leaky gut, if you have holes in your gut lining from eating crap, basically, little food particles can get through and then your body starts to attack it. And that's where people see a lot of bloating. To

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interrupt you one second. And if your body's fighting cancer, then now it's gotta fight

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that also. This

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is where you're running into problems.

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Absolutely, yes. So you don't want to add any extra fight to what your body has to do. So you're like, yeah, you just want to keep it as simple, your body in the most relaxed state to where it can focus on what it needs to focus on and kill all those T-cells, or not T-cells, that's what you need, kill all those cancer cells.

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Now, with the carnivore diet, you know the cholesterol thing, which we have mentioned once before, there really never was an issue until 1979, where all of a sudden it seemed like cholesterol took off like crazy. But you could look at this different research where they claim People that live the longest have the highest cholesterol. People that don't get dementia and Alzheimer's have high cholesterol. Now, coincidence maybe, all this cholesterol medicine, all this Alzheimer's and dementia all of a sudden. It's kind of funny how it just kind of showed up. Not making any statements. Just... observing some things and once again if your body isn't living off of sugar processed carbohydrates it has to live off of your fat and this will once again make you healthy the protein builds your body back up not just your muscles but your organs and everything else which makes you healthy again and able to fight this disease off.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, and another thing that I just thought of, too, is when you said, you know, with cholesterol and how they started to put sugar in everything around, like, late 70s, 80s, causing all kinds of obesity. Also, like...

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Everything was fat-free.

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Yes, everything was fat-free because they took sugar out of everything. Or, I'm sorry, they took the fat out of everything and they put sugar in it. What they also did is, if you look back... Like in the 90s, I grew up, I was an 80s kid, so like late 80s, early 90s. That's when a lot of this chemical stuff started happening, like, really, really bad. So, like, I remember, and it was, of course, geared toward kids. So we had, like, purple ketchup. We had green ketchup. We had Go-Gurts. We had Squeeze-Its. I mean, we had everything that was... Pop-Tarts. Pop-Tarts. And things were, like, every color of the rainbow, not to mention all the cereals and stuff that we were fed. And, you know, nobody knew about all this stuff. So, like, if you look back... obesity and all these diseases really started to skyrocket around the 80s. They kind of started to trickle, and then it was like whoosh.

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And people were eating less

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fat. Yes, and more chemicals. And that's what happened. So if you're trying to figure out, too, like, okay, who do I trust? Do I trust these people on the Alpha Male podcast? Do I trust my doctors who are saying this other thing? I would encourage you to take a step back and go, okay, Back before the 80s, everybody had, you know, like, people were eating, like, steak, red meat, chicken, fat. Like, people were, you know, baking. And, like, I think back to my grandma. She would eat, Grandma Marge, she would bake nonstop, eat all of it, and not be, like, overweight at all. And nowadays you don't see that anymore.

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I'm going to interrupt you one sec. How old is Grandma?

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99. 99.

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And a half.

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Yeah, and a half. And, I mean, she baked everything. She didn't, you know, it was a sin to buy, store-bought anything. And you think back, like, you know, 50s, 60s, 70s, And then all of a sudden in the 80s, all these changes were made, and now we're the sickest we've ever been. Our life expectancy has actually gone down as a country. Cancer's at, you know, skyrocketing rates. And you've got to take a step back and go, okay, wait a second. None of this stuff was around before all these changes, before sugar replaced fat, before all these chemicals, before, I mean, also, I mean, there's other things that are going on too, like EMFs and...

SPEAKER_01:

I just want to interrupt you one second. Yes, I had cancer. They made a mistake and said I had it, but I really didn't. When they radiated me, that's how I got cancer. So I wasn't eating my high-protein, high-fat diet. Didn't give me cancer.

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No.

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Complements of the radiation machine.

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Yes, and they don't tell you that. They act like there's no side effects whatsoever, and it's just a safe, nice little thing you have to do for eight weeks. No biggie. So, yeah.

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But anyway, with the diet, that's why we would suggest trying that and adjusting your diet the best you possibly can because... You have to rebuild your body, whether you're going through chemo, whether you're going through radiation, or you're fighting it out on your own. You must rebuild those cells. And the only way we do that is from eating. Now, I know some people go, I can't eat. Well, if you have a feeding tube, like I did, for... I don't know, it was six or eight weeks. I put amino acids down there. I got liquid vitamins. I got protein powders. I did all that where I calculated how well my nutrients were. Omega-3 oils. So olive oil. We did the whole nine yards. And Heather even used to make me smoothies. We used to pour down my

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tube. Yeah, I mean... Having a feeding tube actually, I think, works in your benefit during something like this because you don't have to worry about what it tastes like. So we just cared about, you know, like whatever would get him to those numbers. That's what we made.

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A lot of unique colors

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in there. Yes. And I mean, we tried doing ground meat the one, you know, a couple of times. And unfortunately, we couldn't get it ground enough because it kept clogging the tubes.

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Yeah.

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But you can get really, really creative on that. So if you do find yourself with a feeding tube, don't feel like you have to listen to them and only use their canned drinks that are usually filled with sugar and chemicals. Get yourself...

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That's very high in carbohydrates.

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It's terrible. One of your cans, I couldn't even believe this. So they gave you some crappy... generic thing that that's, you know, what they give everybody. And you said, no, I need like the healthy version. And so they gave you the quote unquote healthy version, which was terrible. Oh my God. One can. And you had to drink eight of these a day in order to get the calories that you needed. Okay. Eight. Because that's when like This was temporary because this is when you were still fighting with a doctor to allow you to put... Not the doctor, the nutritionist. The nutritionist, which I will say, I'm not saying that all nutritionists that work in hospitals are bad, but I have yet to see a good one that actually knows what they're talking about. I'm just throwing that out there. They're usually the worst at nutrition advice, but whatever.

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Well, because they follow that food pyramid, which is upside down.

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Okay, so again, just to make this clear you had just gotten on a surgery for throat cancer okay vocal cord cancer to be more specific they wanted to give you the healthy version that you would have to eat eight cans a day of that had 50 grams of brown rice salads aka sugar okay do the math on that that is insane insane and the nutritionist like thought that that was good And, oh, my God, it was just– it's unbelievable. And that's what you're up against when you are, you know, when you listen to the nutritionist at the hospital or the doctor's recommendations. Unfortunately, that's the kind of information that they're going to probably give you. And

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we're not telling you not to listen to them.

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I personally would not.

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Take their information.

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Yeah.

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And do your own research.

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Yes. If it were me, I would never– Drink that.

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Well, we have some good doctors now, so that's why I don't want to say don't trust any doctor.

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No, no, not any, but I would just say be prepared. Because how the hospital system works is that's what pharmaceutical rep got to the nutritionist and said, please buy my product. And that's why they do that. It's not because, oh, what's best for you? Nobody looked at you and asked you Like, Greg, what is your goal? What do you want? Do you want to get back to 210? Okay, this is what we're going to do. What really happens is, oh, you need to eat and you have a feeding tube? Here's what our hospital has a contract with, and they just give it to you. And the fact that it had sugar in it is crazy. Okay, so you really want to think about this. And I get really pissed off about this. Okay, so that is there for people like you that had a feeding tube, which means... It doesn't matter what it tastes like. Why would you put that much sugar in something? That doesn't make sense.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, it's cheap calories, and that's what they were trying to get.

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But, like, that's nuts. This is a hospital for someone who is sick. You shouldn't be going cheap. That's why I get so pissed off. And because people don't realize it. It doesn't come with a warning.

SPEAKER_01:

That one friend of yours, she went to school. and had leukemia.

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Oh yeah, he ended up, he struggled with putting weight on and I mean granted he was in remission but still, his doctor, he went to his doctor and he told Matt to eat sugar because that was the best way to gain weight. And when he told me that I was like, are you freaking kidding me? And I just, I don't understand. What's

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sad is Matt's no longer

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with us. Yes, unfortunately. And He chose to listen to the doctors and unfortunately it didn't work out. But it just, it infuriates me because so many people, we were taught growing up the wrong thing about nutrition, total wrong thing.

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Upside down food pyramid.

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Yeah. And then, so nobody learns how to eat. And then when you go to the hospital, when you're, you know, like you're fearful, you're vulnerable, you don't know what to do. The bad information continues. And then they give you something that has nothing to do with benefiting you. It has to do with a contract at the hospital that some administrator decided to sign.

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And that's why when they tell you to do something, always ask why.

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Yeah.

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Not just because you're telling me why. Why is that way better? What about this way? And that's what you need to be able to do. Speak for yourself. Because... They don't always have your best interest. I think like others said, sometimes. I hate to say this, some places sell out to the highest bidder.

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Absolutely.

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And it's about money, and I realize it's a business. But I thought they swore that they were supposed to do us no harm.

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Yeah, I don't think that they... abide by that anymore.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, I think we got a lot more to talk about on this.

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Yeah.

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We're about running out of time.

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Yeah. I'm sorry. I get so mad about it. I get infuriated because I just think people are masquerading around as somebody that they're not. Oh,

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that's what they were taught. And they didn't go outside the lines to look. And that's a shame because just like with me being in education... okay, you taught me how to do your way, and then I learned other ways, and then I did the best way, not just the way you tried to shove down my throat.

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Yeah, I just think, I guess I wish that people that worked in hospitals, especially with a sick, vulnerable population, and especially when, like with something like cancer, where, you know, the numbers are skyrocketing, that they would maybe take a step back and kind of think, okay, what's going on? What's wrong? And not just keep doing the same terrible thing. I guess that's really what infuriates me because especially with that, if there's any job that you should be doing that and taking the extra step, it should be that. And

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by the way, I don't know why that just popped in my head because I remember Mom had mentioned this. Like a lot of ladies get mammograms. And when they put the breast in...

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They like smoosh it.

SPEAKER_01:

Right. And I've had some reading and some other people telling me when they squish it, if you have the start of a little tumor or whatever, that's what breaks it up and gets it going in the system. that you shouldn't really have that.

SPEAKER_02:

You should have that. Yeah, I can't remember what kind of test that is, but I think, because Mom, I think, had it done, where it's like a full-body scan. Yeah. Oh, it's a thermogram. Thank you, Mom. It's a thermogram. Where, yes, that's so much better. And one last thing. This is what I'm going to say. And this might be an unpopular opinion, but whatever. I don't really care. So I just think that... like with this cancer thing, they have marketed it so well. It's like, again, this is like a conspiratorial thought. They have marketed it so well, and they put out there like, you know, you're a fighter, which don't get me wrong, you are. But almost to a point, they overdo it so you can't question anything. Like, for instance, like with you, you didn't have cancer. Nobody wants to hear, like anybody that went through radiation or chemo doesn't want to hear that they might not have had cancer. So you can't question it. So like, let's just say we never found out that you didn't have cancer, but it never made sense to me. And you went through everything. It's like, I can't approach you and say, I don't know if you ever had cancer or not. And that... Or like with the mammogram, there's so many people that like have breast cancer that you can't, because they are told that's what saved their life. So you can't tell them that mammograms are bad. They get defensive.

SPEAKER_01:

That's why I check mom every night.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. Gross. Don't say that. And, but do you know what I mean? Like, am I making sense? Like, I think that they, and whether it's purpose or accident, it's almost like you develop this, mentality that you can't question anything because you can't question those that have fought cancer and beat it or fought cancer and did not you know win the battle and you just can't question it and you just keep going forward and doing the exact same thing it's almost like anybody that goes to rock the boat or say something different or question like uh chemo i think is killing people instead of actually helping them it's like don't say that that's what saved my life and it's like but did it like can we it's almost like you cannot question anything because it's offensive to people that went through it. And

SPEAKER_01:

one thing I will say, too, on chemo, and then we better wrap this up. The one place I went to down in Mansfield, this is the one we still thought I had it. They had chemo that was specific to when they did that RGC test to... to the chemo that would just attack those cancer, where usually we found out chemo is just a shotgun approach, where, hey, we hope it kills cancer, but it might kill a few other things also. But, hey, I hope this helped you today. We've got more we'd like to talk to, and once again, if you have any questions...

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, definitely email us at info at the alpha male podcast dot com and definitely make sure to like, share and subscribe. And one last little tidbit, I will say I would not be saying to question anything if what we were doing was currently working. It just seems like we're not headed in the right direction. And that's why I think it's so important to start questioning things. And because that's. not to take anything away from those that went through anything, but to make it better for those coming up that do have it.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, I'm amazed, Mom and I are, how many people come up to us and tell us they have cancer and they know somebody. And it's like, holy schmoly.

SPEAKER_02:

It's crazy. Where is all this coming from? And that's where I think we have to start asking questions and start wondering, like, you know, nobody knows what's causing all this. Is it actually being caused? Is the diagnostics getting widened? I mean, you know, and so now what would have not been considered cancer 10 years ago is now considered cancer. And they're, you know, happy to sign you up for chemo and radiation when you wouldn't have gotten it 10 years. I mean, I don't know. I'm just asking questions. And I think people need to start asking questions. And just because it was done in the past. And it doesn't take anything away from those people that did go through it that way. It's just, that's not the best way.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, that's what we're trying to get to. Because if we could save somebody, that's our whole purpose on that. Well, hey, thank you very much for joining us. And I hope you

SPEAKER_02:

tune in again.

UNKNOWN:

Yeah, we'll see you next time, guys. Bye. Bye.